MEREDITH
[ 00:00:06 ] Welcome back, Portugal junkies! Hello, we're here with wine; cheers, happy hour, cheers, babe. Oh, I love that sound! I'm gonna have a sip, yes, go for it. We're drinking a Vino Verde, which if you know anything about Portugal, they're known for they are um, it's good, it's definitely a uh, well, it's more on northern... well, yes, it's in that northern region of wine country. But I will also say this: this is one of the things that I learned here that I was like, 'Mind blown!' And then I felt kind of dumb. Oh, because when they call it green wine, yeah so Vino Verde is called green wine here, and I literally thought it was because it's a it's the hue of the wine. I thought That that was why it was called green wine, but what it really means is it's a young wine. So you could have red Vino Verdes, Green Vino Verdes, Rose... Yeah, and I was shocked because the first time we heard this was from a guy that we met at the wine chalet called Daniel, and I swear I left being so confused because he was the one who told me this, yeah, and I thought it was maybe a communication where like a holy world had been turned upside down, yeah, like a language barrier or something, like I just hadn't misunderstood that and then I realized that's exactly what he meant and exactly what he said. So it's pretty cool anyway, either it's true.
Mark
[ 00:01:44 ] or he was telling us a big fat fib but i don't think he was totally true so anyway today we are going to do faq we are the best i do love it i do love the faqs why do you love that i just think because you you can just talk about stuff it doesn't sound like a theme or anything it's not like we're gonna talk about this on the podcast today right this could be all random questions and that's great for for those times when we you know organize a yeah a particular podcast yeah um but with the move and everything time wise yeah um it's it's been a bit busy it has been busy but fun a lot of fun i will say this you guys though we've gotten some rain
MEREDITH
[ 00:02:36 ] In Tavira, which shouldn't be happening, yeah. But I hesitate to even say anything since our friends at home were like dealing with freaking hurricanes. But it is weird that we've had rain a couple of days um this week and that's just unheard of really for yeah when you get 50 days of rain total a year, yeah.
Mark
[ 00:02:58 ] To have a couple in a row can't really complain about it but uh I mean I can and I have but I think I should sort of check myself really, yeah.
MEREDITH
[ 00:03:09 ] So, okay, so we have a couple of questions that we're gonna go over today that came in from people on the interwebs, on the webs, on the interwebs. The first one is: are you ready right? The first one is are you ready right the first one is How is the new place? I think they're talking about our apartment new apartment in Tavira, okay so how would you even like what, what, tell everybody about the new apartment, good, bad, ugly?
Mark
[ 00:03:35 ] Um, it's great, I love it, I really do.
MEREDITH
[ 00:03:39 ] What do you love?
Mark
[ 00:03:40 ] I love the way it is, yeah um now if anybody remembers or watched uh, I think it was probably some things like Miami Vice back in the day, um where you had those see-through glass bricks, yes it's a little it's like we can kind of see through it but you can't see what you're looking at, you can see this like yeah squirrelly image um, a couple of walls I kind of like that um, but at the same time I think If I own this place, but here's the thing: it's not like this place was built in the 80s.
MEREDITH
[ 00:04:17 ] No, it's like it was built in, like, mid-yay... yeah, like 2008 or 2009, or something. So it's funny to me because I wonder if, like, it just makes you think about trends. You wouldn't see this, like, that example of that kind of wall right in the U.
Mark
[ 00:04:34 ] s unless it was around miami vice time which is like mid 80s right and so it's just interesting that 20 years later yeah it's here in portugal on a new bills right apartment but it does let light in the rest of it is weird yeah the actual apartment itself i do like um it's a nice easy layout all of that yeah um the the actual location of it you know in terms of um being next to other people other places like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the within the neighborhood i think that's really nice um so we are in a little we are in a how many how many units in this apartment complex i think i think you said it's about 36 okay so let's say it's 36 apartment units um and and there's a courtyard and a pool and all of that inside like on the atrium right of the buildings that make a rectangular square and then all around us yeah the houses on our street are like big mansions we looked up um what was for sale in this one little neighborhood
MEREDITH
[ 00:05:42 ] Just because we're like nosy, yeah, because we're Nozella, and most of the homes for sale, not the apartments but the homes that are for sale, are close around $1.8 million. 9 million euros which it's amazing to me because i'm like where did this little apartment complex come from to be in the middle of all that um and again the prices have skyrocketed here in portugal in general so who knows what that looked like five years ago right i think from you know the actual building that we are in um the the bad part about it i think is some of the the cabinetry is outdated it's it's not necessarily even to me it's not necessarily even outdated it's just builder grade you know and i'm not knocking builder grade but yeah there's a difference between u .
Mark
[ 00:06:38 ] A builder-grade, Portugal's builder-grade, um, because we've already had to have the chat or a handy guy coming in that's right and fix a door that Meredith pulled off. I did not you did it, couldn't have been hanging very hard if I was able; I'm not, I'm not making any judgment, I'm just saying it was your hand that pulled it off, it's true, um, so yeah, some of that.
MEREDITH
[ 00:07:02 ] I think the appliances are a little bit more expensive, I think the appliances are a little bit more older, I think what it comes down to is that this apartment was built in 2008 and nothing's really been updated right except the bathroom; he did change the tub into a shower in the um one of the main bathrooms, so that's yeah, a good thing.
Mark
[ 00:07:20 ] Um, but I don't know that I would have anything necessarily bad to say; I think the only thing that really bothers me about it is the outside space like our personal outside space. There's a little quadrant at the front that is barely big enough to even put a table if it was another two foot out like deep and another maybe even a foot wider, it would be great for a bistro table, two chairs, yeah. What's your uncle done? Excuse me, but what, what did you just say, Bob's your uncle?
MEREDITH
[ 00:07:56 ] You don't want to hear the rest of it or do you Bob's your uncle, what does that mean?
Mark
[ 00:08:00 ] It just means everything's good.
MEREDITH
[ 00:08:02 ] Is that Cockney?
Mark
[ 00:08:03 ] No, then what is Bob's your uncle? It's just a saying that we had and I'm supposed to equate that with that.
MEREDITH
[ 00:08:10 ] All is good.
Mark
[ 00:08:11 ] Doodle bin, you can Bob's your uncle. You would think after eight years you don't want to hear the second part of it.
MEREDITH
[ 00:08:18 ] What is it? Can you not say it? Is it going to make our podcast explicit?
Mark
[ 00:08:22 ] It would do.
MEREDITH
[ 00:08:23 ] I can tag it as explicit. What tell it?
Mark
[ 00:08:28 ] Say the general term is Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt.
MEREDITH
[ 00:08:31 ] Um, you're not supposed to say that word in England no and that f-word is Fanny yeah this is tagged as
Mark
[ 00:08:45 ] explicit now this might get some so yeah again the the outside space i would like more outdoor space just be good good if that was the case um but generally speaking the fact that we are right at the entrance we don't have to walk too far to take a dog out etc etc you know it takes so many bits of our boxes that we needed or wanted um and in the location of tavera in the algarve um it's it's really dreamy yeah i do i have to say this the thing i love about it the most is it's like we're in a little neighborhood um so you can choose when and what experience you want of tavera so it takes us what did we count eight minutes eight minutes to walk
MEREDITH
[ 00:09:36 ] Into the main town, um, from here but it's also nice to now be in a little bit of a neighborhood whereas we lived in Porto and we were right in the thick of everything and there's good and bad to that, yes, um. It feels more homey because we have that choice-you're not forced to deal with, right when you walk out the door, the city, yeah, right a car is screaming past the truck, yeah. It's just it's quiet, it's beautiful, I mean I wouldn't walk out the door if I didn't have to. The other day and there's two lemon trees that flank the street like, right up our block, like just lemons hanging there. I know that sounds ridiculous to some people, especially. You people in California maybe Florida, but like it just seems so um tropical and resorty, yeah here I hate to say it like that but that's what it feels like. We walked by um a house today you had an olive tree in their front yard, you know olives are grown here massively, but it's just things like that that just like make you realize you're not at home anymore, you know, you're not this is not Charlotte anymore.
Mark
[ 00:10:48 ] Again, that's one of the ones we... when we decided that we wanted to adventure and and do these things um, experiencing all the opportunities of a city or the Algarve of wherever it might be next and we don't know. But at the same time, I'm going to enjoy this adventure, this piece of the adventure, so much, yeah.
MEREDITH
[ 00:11:15 ] I think overall, I'm very happy with this apartment, yes. We're very happy with our landlord too, because I'm just convinced he's like the sweetest man on the face of the planet, um, which is not what you expect, um, and so that has been really good. It feels like he's willing to make sure that we're happy, yeah, and step up and change things when it's needed or, and space-wise, it all worked out like we still have a two-bedroom, two-bath, it's what we had in Porto, this is a little bit bigger, I think, square footage wise, or at least the way it's laid. Out feels bigger, um, and it's just really-it feels really light and like it feels like you're at the beach right, that's what it feels like. Differently than Porto to me, so I've been very happy, I've been very happy with the location and and all of that too, so yeah. But I'm kind of embarrassed to even say that I'm not happy with that. We have not even been to the pool yet, been to the beach had a beach day-the beach, oh, I'm gonna talk about that at some point because I just that was a lovely day. But we have not even been to our own pool and I think it's because it's been raining sporadically and we've been trying to get ourselves settled here. And, like, make it feel homey and yeah, running errands in order to do that all that kind of stuff, but it's been, it's been really great, yeah. I feel like the storage here has been awesome. I think that what I've learned is that um, the Portuguese people or people who own property in Portugal, I should say, especially those who are renting it out, I think they have learned how important storage space is, and so it's made it really easy for us. Like, the couch pulls out into a full bed, both trundle twins, I mean, both beds in the second bedroom are trundles, so or you or can be or you can have storage there, same thing with our bed, it lifts up, there's storage under the bed there's storage it's just a lot of opportunity for someone like us who kind of come with some stuff that might be pushing it for a two
Mark
[ 00:13:12 ] -bedroom um and to live comfortably because everything has a place so it's just been really good yeah i think that the actual apartment itself is lovely if i were to own this would i change i would change an awful lot yeah just for my own experience yeah but again it's not um but it's it's very comfortable it is we're very lucky and for anybody who i'm sure that you're wondering right we paid 15 .
MEREDITH
[ 00:13:40 ] 95 euros in puerto for our brand new apartment that they had refurbished um and nobody had lived there stone walls if you've been paying attention and listening to us for a while yeah the stone walls behind us and the the two-bedroom right on this beautiful street in the middle of town um here we pay 100 euros less so that was a big benefit for us even though it was still on the high end of what we were looking for and so next stop maybe even cheaper than that if we decide to move but i wanted to give that perspective because i know that's the next question for a lot of people it's like you like it but like how much is that was that a neat little segue into the next question no that's just what i thought that maybe Somebody would be wondering, yeah, cool. I've enjoyed it, thank you for whoever asked that question; I can't remember, um, the next question ready, go!
Mark
[ 00:14:32 ] For it is to Vera your final stop, yes no, I don't know-is to Vera my final stop right now, yes no, temporary everything for you? Yeah, I think it would have to be something really special somewhere very special for you know, to at least measure up to here um and to take it further, you mean to Vera yeah yeah yeah not necessarily this specific apartment but this area this this town that we're in um just because to Vera has got so many beautiful little spots that that we found. And so many, I'm sure, that we've not even found yet, um, because we've been doing all this sort of setup and uh, and those sorts of things. But, I, I, I have to say I did fall in love with it the first time that we came here, uh, and and and and and and and and and and and, and i continue to do that when we walk around town.
MEREDITH
[ 00:15:38 ] What do you mean? We talked a little bit last podcast about how it feels different from Porto in a lot of different ways, and I think this kind of piggybacks on this question of like can this be the last stop for us? Could it be? I think that it could be. I didn't feel that way about Porto; I love Porto, and i it has a special Because I'm not a Porto fan, I'm not a Porto fan, I'm not a Porto fan, I'm not a Porto fan, I'm not a Porto fan because it was our first stop and it was our first experiences of being an immigrant to Portugal and all the things that we learned there and the experiences good and bad that we had there all of that stuff makes it a place that I will always look back and go 'there's always a memory, oh my god I love Porto' but in terms of it feeling like home or a potential place that you could be if you wanted to be in Portugal long-term, yeah it didn't ever get there for me um and I think it just comes down to the fact that I'm just a I'm not. A city girl at 45, I'm not if you'd asked me at 20 when I wanted to move to New York City tomorrow, right. That's different. And but I'm a I'm in a different stage in my life and so the ability for it to feel like home, yeah has it just has to meet different requirements.
Mark
[ 00:17:00 ] I will say as well, the here to Vera itself is making me slow down even more than I thought was possible because I thought I had slowed down in Porto now I'm kind of like necessarily catatonic but um pretty close, it's very enjoyable.
MEREDITH
[ 00:17:20 ] This one has some angst, yeah some anxiousness that he deals with sometimes and I think it's lovely that you're here in a place it was a first. Stop for Porto, and you were different then, and now you're even more different than I can see in two weeks here. Yeah, we're not even two weeks, but no, I mean just in terms of like being able to just breathe.
Mark
[ 00:17:42 ] Yeah, I don't know, I think that being able to be fortunate enough to be in this position number one it's so important to make sure that we don't lose or abuse the opportunity to slow down right and redirect who we are, what we want, how we want it when we want things, and just live our life in a different way because ultimately that was that was the intention yes, was to live differently. Yeah, um, so I think Tavira has definitely done That for me, um, but there are times when I do think to myself, yeah, I'm very stationary; I need to do something. And yes, we do podcast and yes, we do other things. But my 53-year-old brain says, 'Oh, if you're not working, are you? If you're not out doing something working for someone, you're not working.' So again, it's still trying to unpack and unwrap all of that, and I'm saying for you, uh but I'm, I'm not sad about the opportunity to just chill. I don't know if Tivoli is the final place, but I think it's going to be tough to beat the Lgov; certainly, I know that it won't be places like Albafera and those kind of party places it's just not gonna happen.
MEREDITH
[ 00:19:11 ] no not interested i think what's interesting is to think about it kind of goes into the next question so i'll go ahead and ask the next question so somebody said aren't you glad that you're not having to deal with helene and milton and this is a loaded question because as on the last podcast i was very very honest about how it that whole situation with helene and it destroying places that i absolutely love and we absolutely love and even though it was not a direct thing for our property in charlotte right it just hurts so bad and it still does um as they start to rebuild and all that and then like hearing about milton and and Watching Florida, just try to do everything that they can to prepare this week. Um, it's kind of a loaded question because yes, I'm glad that I am not there physically to deal with something like that, but it doesn't really mean that I don't feel it. Like, I'm there, I mean that's the thing about when you move and you become an immigrant, that I've just learned-you're kind of you're kind of split. You feel like your your heart splits and part of your heart is in your home place and part of your heart is in your new place, and all that comes with that is very complicated emotionally. I feel like you have to kind of wade through like what you're feeling, and half the time you don't even know how to identify what you're feeling, which is really intriguing to me. I've told you this a hundred times-I'm like there's a whole emotional component that I would love to like create a a group around, which is like identifying these things that we go through as immigrants, you know, being able to recognize your emotions and tie them back to what you're feeling. Because I think in the moment of like moving through this whole process of moving to a different country from the U. S., you don't even know what's up and down half the time. And you don't, and if you're not really good and you don't know yourself yet, which is fine, but if you are in that process, which we kind of all are, sometimes it's really hard to understand like why you're reacting the way you are to certain things until after it's done and then you look back and you're like, oh, I got it. But I digress. I'm just saying that I felt like this question was a complicated one because I feel like I am home there with those people who are trying to recuperate and navigate and figure out what new life is, even though I'm sitting here in Portugal. And it also made me think this week, like it makes me think life just can change real quick. And some of us are so lucky that we get these long periods of time where life is pretty damn good. And you're lucky because a lot of people are on the opposite of that, where the joy and the beauty is snippets in their lives, the struggles that they have, all that stuff. And so when I got, when I think about this question, it makes me really think about the reason why we've done this in the first place, which is you're just not guaranteed anything. I mean, you take it as it comes. Just not.
Mark
[ 00:22:58 ] You know, you take it as. You know, you're born, you do this, you do that, you get your job, you see it through to 65 and if you're lucky in some cases and who knows whatever after that, you know, but equally, there are people that were, you know, they're set on this course, this trajectory of life in particularly in West North Carolina and Florida. And. You just get it taken away in a moment and everything that you saved for, anticipated, worked, invested, built in a lot of cases, people, you know, and it's all just wiped away. That's, that's a devastation, not, not just physically, but in an emotional way that I will never, ever be able to understand. Unless it happens to you. Unless it happens to you. I don't think, I don't think you can.
MEREDITH
[ 00:23:57 ] You're not immune. And that's the thing.
Mark
[ 00:23:59 ] Right, but that's my point. Right, you're not immune.
MEREDITH
[ 00:24:01 ] Nobody is. And whatever tragedy it is that upheaves your life, right, whether it's a hurricane or it's losing someone or whatever it is, it can, it will rock your world in a way that might make you go, 'Damn, why didn't I do this then?' Right. Or why didn't I do this with that person? Before I lost them or all the things I can go on and on, but like, when I think about the hurricanes and I think about the devastation and I think about what that means to the people who are experiencing that stuff right now, that's what I think about. And I think about like how proud I am that we made the choice to just go for it. Yeah. I know. Not everybody is like naturally equipped to take risks like that. And I know that doesn't mean that you won't ever. It just means that I think maybe we are more open to taking a risk like that for 117 reasons. We don't have kids. We have the flexibility, like all that other stuff. Right. But we still had to choose to leave careers. We still had to choose the unknown. We still had to choose the things in hopes that it would work out and that on top of that, that was. That was bigger than the future regret of not doing it. Right. Because we looked at each other at one point and was like, would you rather regret doing it and it just fucking blowing up in your face or would you rather never trying it? And sitting here in a normal life and not having the excitement that we've experienced here, like, and not doing that now because we know that. It's not guaranteed that tomorrow comes, like, I don't live in that place all the time, but my, I think my gratitude practice makes me very aware of it. So when I'm grateful, I, and when I'm in the moment, grateful for things, it also makes me very aware that tomorrow is not guaranteed the way it is today. And I'm not talking to just life and death. I'm just talking about circumstances. So, you know, that's what the processing for me has been about watching these hurricane victims and watching the devastation and watching these people, not just these people's property and homes, but literally their whole life. When your home is not there anymore, what do you go to? It's crazy to even wrap my head around it.
Mark
[ 00:26:51 ] I honestly don't know.
MEREDITH
[ 00:26:52 ] So, yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess the answer to the question is yes, I'm glad that we're not in the middle of the devastation.
Mark
[ 00:27:01 ] Right. And we've got a, we've got a friend, won't mention who it is, but we've got a friend who recently moved from Florida. And, you know, she, she's looked back and seen pictures of her neighborhood, her prior home. And, you know, it's just, just, I don't understand how that would feel to see what was once yours, is now gone or, you know, at the very, at the very least, completely internally destroyed. Yeah. You know, and then she would be the first one to say about, you know, survivor guilt and things like this. 100%. It's a very real thing. And I don't think anybody's immune from it. I think that's what we were feeling last week. Yeah. I think you just have to weigh up what is more important than for us and that difference for everybody. But for us, it was. It was the opportunities to go and do something because I would rather it not fail in my face than not do it.
MEREDITH
[ 00:28:07 ] Than not try. Yeah. And it's paid off for us. Yeah. So convoluted answer to what seems to be a very simple question. It's not a simple question. It's not a simple question.
Mark
[ 00:28:16 ] It's a simple written question, but it's not. Like there's so much. It's a loaded.
MEREDITH
[ 00:28:20 ] It's a loaded question when it comes to that. And I think, when I think back to last week and we were, you know, we did a podcast last week about how. It just felt like we were, you know, just, we were so excited to be here, but we couldn't really be excited because of all that was happening at home and all the people that we were worried about. That's exactly what it was. It was survivor's guilt. It was knowing that we've just arrived in this beautiful place in the Algarve and it is 70 degrees and sunny and you've got beaches and like wine and pools and lemon trees. Also. And someone else's reality at that same moment. It was the wrong thing. It was something that really is my thing. You feel guilty, and you may just feel guilty. Like the reason it is is that it's more important to be aware that I think, you know, there's something more important that we just don't feel like is, that we're just close to kind Yeah.
Mark
[ 00:29:13 ] Like how. If you're goddamn right. All you've got to do is work out. What's more important in life? Yeah. Just forms.
MEREDITH
[ 00:29:27 ] I do believe that too. I feel like people who are unhappy typically have their priorities mixed up or wrong. That's how I feel. It's a struggle between what I prioritize versus what I should be prioritizing.
Mark
[ 00:29:49 ] Yeah, that depends on what's making somebody unhappy and whether you can actually do anything about changing that. Sure, you have the privilege of changing it. Yes, thank you for that.
MEREDITH
[ 00:29:58 ] But I will also say, take your typical family who has followed the steps that you just outlined that society has told them is the right way. Go to college, get a job, hopefully retire someday, blah, blah, blah. Their priorities are a corporate ladder or gaining the next promotion or whatever it is. Maybe instead of balancing life or prioritizing, prioritizing time with family or all those things. And yeah, this person could be completely unhappy because they feel the pressure to do all those things that society has told them to do instead of prioritizing the things that actually make them come alive. I mean, again, I just, I don't know. I feel like we had a moment at some point that said our priority is adventuring.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:30:53 ] Right.
MEREDITH
[ 00:30:55 ] And then we went and did it. And we get it that that's not for everybody. And some people are completely content with suburbia and doing that whole life pattern. And I'm not here to judge that. If that makes you happy, then do it. But I know that it didn't make me happy. Right. So you're responsible for your own happiness sometimes where it's like, how do you make life better by the decisions that are within your control?
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:31:19 ] Yeah.
MEREDITH
[ 00:31:20 ] So anyway, I'm off on a tangent and this is why. Okay. Vino Verde is good.
Mark
[ 00:31:27 ] Well, it was a bit of a, had some bubbly in it. Yes. Bubbles.
MEREDITH
[ 00:31:31 ] This is true. It is known for its bubbles, but we did find out that that was not how Vino Verde was always made.
Mark
[ 00:31:38 ] We did, but I can't quite remember.
MEREDITH
[ 00:31:41 ] I think that the gist was back how it was previously made was no effervescence. There was no carbonation.
SPEAKER_4
[ 00:31:48 ] Right.
MEREDITH
[ 00:31:49 ] But Vino Verde always, like at home, if I was to buy a bottle in America of Vino Verde, I would expect it to be a little fizzy. Okay. And that lovely girl at the Porto hidden bar that we went to that was so knowledgeable about Vino Verde was the one who, yeah.
Mark
[ 00:32:08 ] Arca de Verdades. Verdades.
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:12 ] Arca de Verdades. You should go there if you're in Porto.
Mark
[ 00:32:16 ] Is it de or dos?
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:17 ] De. I don't know. See, we need to learn our Portuguese. I think it's dos.
Mark
[ 00:32:22 ] Da, dash, de, desh. I think it's dos because it ends in a. Dos. In a mess. Because it ends in a mess.
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:27 ] No. Anyway, we're not going to argue about this on the podcast.
Mark
[ 00:32:31 ] We'll save that for another day. Save that for a whole other podcast. Thank you guys so much. We're going to say, all right, we're going to do an argument. Give me cheers. Yeah, but we could do a podcast on what do you argue about? We argue about pronunciation.
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:45 ] We are ourselves on this. They literally see us arguing.
Mark
[ 00:32:49 ] Or hear. All the time. And if you're only listening, you can't see some of the sign language going on, so that's probably a good thing. Under the table.
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:56 ] Under the table.
Mark
[ 00:32:56 ] I'd kick you. Like, God, don't say that.
MEREDITH
[ 00:32:59 ] Jeez. What? Anyway, we're pretty unedited, though. I don't do a lot of editing. No.
Mark
[ 00:33:04 ] Why? Why was? Why? No. Just be me. Just be us. It's free. Okay. Okay. Well done.
MEREDITH
[ 00:33:12 ] Thank you so much for the questions, you guys. Yeah, absolutely. We love these. I know we keep saying that, but I do love the FAQ episodes, too. Absolutely. Where it's like, oh, we can talk about all kinds of random stuff. These are open. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you have a question, we just collect them, so don't feel like you have to wait until the next time we make the call, so please send us any of your questions. Love it. We have really loved the support. Yes.
Mark
[ 00:33:36 ] Thank you very much.
MEREDITH
[ 00:33:37 ] Keep listening. Hey, we would love reviews. We would love comments on either-even if people are not necessarily going to move here.
Mark
[ 00:33:48 ] That's true.
MEREDITH
[ 00:33:49 ] Talk about us. You've got a 30-minute drive in a car?
Mark
[ 00:33:52 ] Yeah, just listen to some-that's really what I hope.
MEREDITH
[ 00:33:55 ] Somebody's listening to us on the way to work, and they're like, hmm, I'm going to quit today. I would love that if our podcast would make more people quit their corporate jobs and go do what they want to do.
Mark
[ 00:34:08 ] Yeah. Okay.
MEREDITH
[ 00:34:09 ] I would cheer for that. Cheers. Cheers. See you next time, guys.